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Rumor Mill: Jake to the Yankees?

ESPN floated a rumor that KT has talked to Brian Cashman about trading Jake Peavy to the Yankees (hat tip MLBTR). Buster Olney says it’s barely worth mentioning, but it brings to mind the question: would it be worth it to trade Peavy now while his value is still high, or should the club hold onto him until his contract is up?

Olney names pitcher Phil Hughes and center fielder Melky Cabrera as the return for Peavy. I think it would take more than that to make a deal; Ian Kennedy has also been rumored to be available, so I’ll throw him in here as well, just for argument’s sake. I don’t think any Padre fan would say that Jake for Hughes and Cabrera is getting max value out of Jake.

Here are the 2008 ZIPS projections for all four players:

Jake Peavy (age 27): 33 GS, 17-7, 2.99 ERA, 214 IP, 181 H, 56 BB, 221 K

Phil Hughes (age 22): 26 GS, 12-5, 3.70 ERA, 141 IP, 136 H, 40 BB, 106 K
Ian Kennedy (age 23): 26 GS, 9-7, 4.38 ERA, 148 IP, 158 H, 42 BB, 94 K
Melky Cabrera (age 23): 159 G, .286 AVG (166/580), .352 OBP, .419 SLG, 83 R, 29 2B, 12 HR, 89 RBI, 59 BB, 65 K, 13 SB; rated “Very Good” at all 3 outfield spots

Given that this is all conjecture, I think that’s probably pretty fair value for Jake. Watching Hughes pitch, he has 4 solid pitches, including one of the better curves I’ve seen recently. He needs to learn to pitch a little more, but he’s got the stuff to get away with it for a while. I’ve heard him compared to Mike Mussina as far as style, and that sounds about right. Kennedy won’t blow you away with his stuff, but he locates relatively well and has enough confidence in his breaking stuff to throw it on any count. If Will Inman were ready right now, this is probably about what he would look like as far as stuff and approach. Cabrera has some nice tools; he is a guy who could slide into the 1 or 2 hole in the Pads lineup and fit right in. He’s a good enough OBP guy that I think Towers would bite on him; he’s also a plus defender, which they will need in Petco. Peavy aside, he’s probably someone we should consider for the center field spot if the price is right.

So, the question remains…trade Jake? The real question is, when do you want to contend?

If the answer is next year, then you simply cannot trade Jake now. This is likely the peak of his value; he’s not likely to replicate his 2007 line next year, although he should be close. If you’re going to go out and spend $15-$20 million to improve the club, you owe it to yourself to keep Jake as the centerpiece of the rotation. His consistency this year was unprecedented; when you have the best pitcher in the National League putting up 7 IP, 2 R, 8 K every 5 days, you’re going to have a chance to win almost every time out. He’s also been through three pennant races now, so theoretically he should be calm enough down the stretch to win in big games. We know Jake, so I’ll leave it at “theoretically;” we all know Jake can get too hyped up and hurt himself out there.

If you’re going to try the youth route and bring in kids to develop next year, then it makes tons of sense to deal Jake now if you can find the right package in return. If you can get two pitchers who could front your rotation for years to come – not to mention your future center fielder – then you can feel confident that you are getting fair value for Peavy. As mentioned above, he’s very unlikely to be as good as he was in 2007, although he should still be extremely good next year. Since the market for starters is weak this year, Peavy’s value is further inflated. Finally, given that Peavy’s high-torque motion puts a lot of stress on his shoulder, he just seems to be headed towards another significant injury, certainly worse than the broken rib he suffered in the 2005 playoffs.

So, my answer is “I don’t know.” Were I Mr. Towers, with a
better idea of how they want to construct the club for next year, I would give a more definitive answer. To make a long story short, it all depends on whether the Padres feel like they can contend next year with a few smaller additions.


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Very interesting blog right here. I think you’re right. Peavy is at his peak right now but if he manages to pick up around 15-20 wins next year we would still get a very good package in return. The Pads have a chance at competing every year if they get the right pieces at the puzzle. You got a very good young infield which we will still have for at least two more years. You got kids like Antonelli and Headley coming up and the FO always signs top outfielders. We’ve had arguably the best bullpen the past couple of seasons and we’ve had a good rotation headlined by Peavy as well. So if KT wants to trade Towers this year or the next it won’t matter, cause as far as I’m concerned, if he gets the right guys we would be ready to contend anyways.

Comment by Franco

I think the Pads would have to do this trade if they got both Kennedy and Hughes. Melky is the defensive answer at any outfield position (perhaps even moving to RF after Giles leaves) and has the ability to drive the ball and steal bases. Hughes and Kennedy would round out a rotation that would still include Young, Maddux and the Hensley/Cassel fifth spot. KT might also sign a Josh Towers type to throw from the #3 spot in the rotation.

Comment by Ryan

Excellent summary of the deal. If we could trust those ZIPS projections 100%, I think I would go ahead and make the theoretical trade with Kennedy added. Cabrera would be a solid centerfielder, and when you translate Hughes’ and Kennedy’s stats into the NL into Petco, Hughes becomes almost as good as Peavy and Kennedy is the best fourth starter in baseball.

However, I am pretty skeptical of the projections. The ERA seems low for Hughes given the peripherals, and Kennedy has significant questions as to whether his phenomenal minor league track record will translate into success in the majors. That’s also a rather large step forward for Cabrera, and while he’s supposed to make steps like that while he matures, he still had a .718 OPS last year.

All that was a rather long winded way of saying that I’d probably hold out for slightly more. The guy I’d like is Robinson Cano, who plays a good defensive second base and has had consecutive 120+ OPS+ seasons.

BTW, nice work on the blog. It’s great to have another Padres blog to check and read.

Comment by Ben B.




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